I have tried treats, play, walks, love, pleas, and threats. So far, Scrappy is still applying passive/agressive behavior to the kittens being in the house. Translated: he pees inside and often. And now Bernie is joining in. Bernie, however, will suffer silently for a lot longer before she is pushed over the edge. I finally put Scrappy in the equivalent of a doggie diaper. Bernie only pees on the dog beds, so I wrapped the innerds of the beds in large garbage bags and she is so alarmed by the attending rustles and crinkles, that she quit peeing on them. It is, though, a losing battle. I am completely attached to the kittens and the older cats don't seem to mind them. But, since Scrappy shows no signs of turning off the faucet and Bernie has become Velcro Dog, I cannot keep torturing them. Even with endless Crunchy Treats, they are still miserable. My laundry loads will shrink, but I sure will miss the amazing cuteness of the kittens.